seattle.politics

In article ,
Don Homuth < > wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:23:36 -0500, Al < @ >
> wrote:
>
> >In article ,
> > Don Homuth < > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:09:07 -0500, Al < @ >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <66gdf35qd35jae8e8oc6todrm7hv01ogkh@ >,
> >> > Don Homuth < > wrote:
> >> >
> >>
> >> >> >> Now - once again, slowly this time to see if you actually Can address
> >> >> >> the question:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Which..One..Of..Them..Deserve..Our..Support?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Whichever elements of these groups side with the US towards a national
> >> >> >solution.
> >> >>
> >> >> Which One would that be? Can you be specific?
> >> >
> >> >Within each tribe are differing aims. Those elements within the shia,
> >> >sunni, kurds are the most obviouse groups to support, and they support
> >> >us.
> >>
> >> And those would be....?
> >
> >The groups described twice for you so far.
>
> All I've asked for is for you to actually Name one.

I've named three: Shia, Sunni, Kurd.

Within those three major groups are elements who would rather move
towards a better Iraq. Those are the groups we back.

Or to make it more simple, Liberal Shia, Liberal Sunni, Liberal Kurds.

You know, the ones that "Liberal Americans" seem ready to walk away from.

>
> >If you want an example, then look at the Army.
>
> Which Army? The Iraqi "army?"
>
> Can't do that. There is no "Iraqi" Army to look at.

Well, whatever hey call those tens of thousands of peoplein funny
uniform calling themselves the Iraqi Army.

For argument's sake, lets call them "Not the Iraqi Army" (NIA), but
their numbers grow daily, whoever they are.

> >> >The roadmap was given to you by OBL, in his weak horse-strong horse
> >> >analogy.
> >>
> >> Which group did ObL suggest we should back?
> >
> >Radical Islam chiefly.
>
> That's a concept -- not a group. I ask again, which Group?

Islamists, who espouse, practice, and kill in the name of Islam.
According to them, anyway.

> >> >The strong horse for the left is OBL, and other radicals doing the
> >> >killing, which is why he (or whomever) has tailored the message to
> >> >appeal to the western left.
> >>
> >> And which group did ObL say He would back in Iraq?
> >
> >Radical Islam.
>
> Name the group, if you would. I'm really asking Very nicely here.

And I am being quite patient with you.

The group in question would be, ready for this, Islamists! See above,
rinse, repeat.

> >> >He has studied in American history, and knows that by tradition, he can
> >> >enlist their support, and as in the past, they will condemn the US
> >> >exclusively, reflexively.
> >>
> >> Which is all Terribly nice, but which group should We be backing in
> >> Iraq? Be specific.
> >
> >Those who share his Radical Islamist ideology.
>
> And those would be....?

Islamists.


> >Your curiosity is refreshing!
>
> And unslaked from you, thus far.

Islamists.

Oh, sorry, you caught me by surprise.